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PostSubject: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:03 pm

Hello guys, I guess you all heard about the sad news of shooting in Florida.... I read this article and it said,

"According to CNN, Santiago went to the FBI in Anchorage a few months ago, claiming that he was hearing voices telling him to join the terrorist organization ISIS. While Santiago said he didn’t intend to harm anyone, his erratic behavior concerned FBI agents and they contacted local police. He also was taken for a mental health evaluation, an FBI official said at a press conference late Friday evening"

So I was thinking.... Voices in his head. Yes, we can agree that the guy could be mentally sick... But what if... He heard the Devil's voice? Or some entity???

I mean he did this in 2017..... it is the beginning of the year and shit like that is already happening Bloody sad Bloody sad


Here is the web where I read it " http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state--regional/update-rick-scott-orders-flags-half-staff-for-shooting-victims/7LlZTqT1D3n3ktqOeDE "
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:03 pm

"Santiago visited an FBI office in Anchorage in 2016, claiming voices were telling him to fight for ISIS, according to CBS News. Santiago also reportedly believed he was being controlled by the CIA to watch ISIS videos. Santiago’s brother said he had since been receiving psychological counseling."

I would say he was paranoid and psychotic.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/06/esteban-santiago-id-d-as-airport-gunman-flew-with-gun-in-checked-luggage.html
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:10 am

We don't know. 

We weren't there. lol. 

Thanks Lykena for sharing. 

it's strange that you are talking about voices.



Because since january first, i've been hearing all kind of audio hallucinations, sounds that are there but not really there you know...as if I could hear another dimension when walking into this one.

I'm sorry if i'm hard to follow .

What I mean is maybe we DO hear noises and things that are in the next dimension to us ? 

I mean why not ? If a lot of people are hearing many voices just like me these times, they would understand no one here is crazy and there are some questions to ask ourselves.

Did the energy waves really modified our reality ? 

it was said to distort space and time , when the two black holes were reacting to one other ( that's why we had energy waves btw ) . 

Idk if it's temporary, but I started hearing louder and louder sounds and I did have some symptoms of demonic posession for a while.


I heard gunshots and explosions in the distance, I hear ravens yelling at me all the time when there are none, i hear screeches and screams and sometimes I do realize my '' thoughts '' are way louder than usual. 

So I wonder, maybe something DID change this year ! 

And what about all these tests and demon posesssion anywhere in the world ?  since january first ? 

People been saying they are being posessed and are experiencing demonic influence from inside , or outside their energy field. 

Even on this very pack, we had many people experiencing more irritation, temptations and some even claimed to have been posessed OR  influenced by some negative entities. 


So why not ? 

Observe, open your eyes. 


The energy waves might have change more than you would even dare believe. 


I started to see weird lights at night as clear as the day, lights floating on the walls.


Yesterday, I went to my balcony, 

...guess what happened ? 


yeah .... 


there was something on it...

something invisible but very real. 

It was loud and it kind of flew I guess because one second I heard a loud thump on the roof, 

next on the balcony, then 1 second later ( only one yes ) , I SAW a street lamp being knocked by something invisible and that's how I know it was real. 

Jeez. 

I hear these noises all night, on the roof etc.

I do  believe demons entered our realm,


just like medieval times. 

lol. 

invisible, strong and sneaky. 

Just like before. 

Plus today, 

the next day I talk to Zong Shi bout ravens yelling in my head, 


I caught ravens sneaking and stalking me in the pine trees. 

they were hiding there, silent and watching. 


They watch me and follow me since my childhood.

But usually they scream at me.


they didn't this time.


I threw some snowball because i heard that noise in the trees.

and a raven came out and flew away.


not a yell, no hate, nothing. 

they really lookes suspicious to me.


very silent, watching me like death itself....

My point is we should stay open minded bout the effects of the energy waves 

without panicking on the end of the world.

Plus that ', end of the world '' might also just be the passing energy waves that will come and come again, changing our reality progressively.

I don't know what you think bout this Razz tell me 


we can start a new subject if you want Lykena, it's up to you.

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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:20 am

Yes we can start a new subject Very Happy

I jus want to add....

*takes a big breath+*


WHAT THE HOLY FUCK SILVER!!!!!!

WE EXPERIENCE

THE
SAME
EXACT
THINGS
!!!!!

I MEAN WHAT THE HELL, IT IS LIKE YOU READ MY MIND FULLLY

I FEEL LIKE MY MIND IS ABOUT TO BLOW UP!!!!

YOU SAID IT ALL!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:16 pm

AHAha same specie.

I'm not surprised anymore Razz 

I know we are the same hehehe.

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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:33 pm

Lucky you XD

I get surprised more and more!
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:13 pm

The way to inner peace...
Expect change...Nothing ever remains the same...
Know that the changes will affect you in some way...
Accept that there is nothing YOU can do about what is happening
except change within yourself and grow to the circumstance...

But...
You already know this...
Don't you?
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:29 pm

ZhongShi wrote:
The way to inner peace...
Expect change...Nothing ever remains the same...
Know that the changes will affect you in some way...
Accept that there is nothing YOU can do about what is happening
except change within yourself and grow to the circumstance...

Pretty much why I don't worry about it. No sense in worrying about things I have no power to change or influence.

While i'm not religious by any stretch of the term, I am rather fond of the Serenity Prayer.

"Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference."
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:42 pm

My version is:

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change those things I can,
And the wisdom to hide the bodies of those
I killed because they pissed me off...

JUST KIDDING!!

There's another version we used in the Army...
last line is "and the good grace not to fuck up too often"
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:03 pm

ZhongShi wrote:
My version is:

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change those things I can,
And the wisdom to hide the bodies of those
I killed because they pissed me off...

JUST KIDDING!!

There's another version we used in the Army...
last line is "and the good grace not to fuck up too often"

Hahaha. While I was trained privately in combat by a Marine (great friend of mine), I never took to the military myself.
Mostly because there was nothing "interesting" going on at the time I left high school.
I put interesting in quotation marks as my views on interesting have changed a lot since I was younger.

I suspect the military was much different back when you enlisted compared to now. :-)
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:13 pm

I served from 1967 to 1995...
"different" is putting it mildly...
My son and daughter went through Basic Training in the early 2000's...
They had "stress cards" that they could hold up when things
got too intense for them in training...
I'm astonished that so many of our soldiers
Survived Iraq and Afghanistan...
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:17 pm

Santiago is a classic case of onset schizophrenia...
It usually manifests in the late 20's to early 30's in men...
First symptoms are almost always...
Hearing voices that are compelling them
to do something,
or join something,
or destroy something...
The progression can vary anywhere from 1-5 years,
but it invariably results in being committed to an institution
or some twisted tragedy of murder or mayhem...

The FBI blew this one entirely...
So did his co-workers,
and his chain of command.
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:24 pm

ZhongShi wrote:
Santiago is a classic case of onset schizophrenia...
It usually manifests in the late 20's to early 30's in men...
First symptoms are almost always...
Hearing voices that are compelling them
to do something,
or join something,
or destroy something...
The progression can vary anywhere from 1-5 years,
but it invariably results in being committed to an institution
or some twisted tragedy of murder or mayhem...

The FBI blew this one entirely...
So did his co-workers,
and his chain of command.

I figured it was either that or the guy was using it as a buffer knowing he was going to kill others later. ISIS and government agencies are an easy target to blame irrational actions on due to their.... sensationalism...

The thought being that pleading insanity apparently brings a less harsh view on killing people.... I guess.
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:46 pm

His actions after he ran out of ammo make the
Insanity supposition suspect...
Crazy people try to reload and continue...
Sane people lay down and assume the position...
then try and say they were nuts...

Still, it is indicative of schizophrenia...
I'm going to be interested in how this case develops...
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PostSubject: Re: The shooting at the airport. Hearing voices   Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:04 pm

ZhongShi wrote:
The way to inner peace...
Expect change...Nothing ever remains the same...
Know that the changes will affect you in some way...
Accept that there is nothing YOU can do about what is happening
except change within yourself and grow to the circumstance...

But...
You already know this...
Don't you?


Well yes, I somewhat do know it. I am still gathering experience in this life x)
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