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Do you think shifting could cure any human disease we have ?

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Post by Silver Black Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:14 pm

Like, it's a debate and  I want theories. 

But can p-shifting can cure any disease or wounds or anything we have in human form that could harm our body ? 

I really wondered because if someone get cancer or anything bad, I wonder if p-shifting could save their life ? 

It would explain why when we have dangerous diseases our body tries to p-shift on its own idk. 

I just...wonder.


what do you think  ?
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Post by Guest Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:17 pm

I don't believe so.. Just because I am a Werecat does not mean I can shift away cancer or wounds ect.  We may be Weres, but we still have to worry about the same things humans do. I wish Shifting could change my bad eyesight but it can't. I tried to shift when I was sick but only did very little and it did not take away from me being ill. I wish so much that it could like heal wounds, heal cancer ect. but it just does not work like that. MAYBE it could aid in some healing but not in the way most think.

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Post by Silver Black Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:31 pm

aw :( ok then. It makes sense, thank you for sharing your opinion here, Esthar.
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Post by Guest Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:33 pm

thanks sometimes I am alittle too blunt. It comes from my feline nature and dealing with people that well I won't get into here because its more on the line of human politics and such.

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Post by Taylarn Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:41 pm

I believe it depends on what sickness we're talking about here. If it's a cold, for example, assuming that you were in the very early stages of getting sick, and began to shift, I feel like you could get rid of the cold if your body temperature raised during shifting (but you'd probably exhaust yourself and counter any good effects). But for more serious illnesses, like cancer, I don't think shifting will help, nor for things you're born with, like for example, bad eyesight. I think for small wounds, shifting can heal them (I'm talking about paper cut small all the way up to six or seven centimeters) and maybe minor broken bones? Anything that shifting already alters, I feel can heal or fix other ailments, but only up to a certain point (so if you got hit by a car, I don't think shifting alone will be able to fix your injuries, but if you get a paper cut, your body should be able to heal it when shifting, since skin would be changing and being altered). However, I have not been injured while shifting, nor have I tested any of these things out, so take them with a grain of salt. :P
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:15 pm

ya what you said made a lot of sense. Thanks.

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Post by Umbra Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:38 pm

I have to agree with the above, it depends on what type of sickness/wound, but unless someone actually shifts and sees for themselves we will not know.
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Post by greenwizard Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:57 pm

since shifting changes your dna and cells, that would mean the virus wouldn't recognize your different cells. you would also technically be able to cure cancer since you can control what your cells do

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Post by Umbra Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:01 pm

greenwizard wrote:since shifting changes your dna and cells, that would mean the virus wouldn't recognize your different cells.  you would also technically be able to cure cancer since you can control what your cells do

Actually, that's well spotted O_O
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Post by Guest Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:28 pm

greenwizard wrote:since shifting changes your dna and cells, that would mean the virus wouldn't recognize your different cells.  you would also technically be able to cure cancer since you can control what your cells do

Maybe.... there have been cases of otherwise healthy humans naturally overcoming some types of cancer but it's pretty rare.

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Post by Taylarn Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:34 pm

Aion wrote:
greenwizard wrote:since shifting changes your dna and cells, that would mean the virus wouldn't recognize your different cells.  you would also technically be able to cure cancer since you can control what your cells do

Maybe.... there have been cases of otherwise healthy humans naturally overcoming some types of cancer but it's pretty rare.


Hmm, but would the cancer be controllable through shifting? The difference between regular cells and cancer cells is that the cancer cells are not under anyone's control, whether the body or otherwise, so I feel that if someone did try to shift with cancer, they might shift everything else except the cancer, and leave the cancer cells intact
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Post by Guest Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:12 pm

ya as cancer is out of control cells in the first place. So I agree with Taylarn.

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Post by greenwizard Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:03 pm

It depends if the shifted cells recognize that the cancer cells don't belong to them and try to attack them. But this is all just theory. I think the reason that cancer cells aren't attacked by normal human cells is because the cells think they are part of them if I remember right

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Post by Nekoman Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:49 pm

greenwizard wrote:It depends if the shifted cells recognize that the cancer cells don't belong to them and try to attack them. But this is all just theory. I think the reason that cancer cells aren't attacked by normal human cells is because the cells think they are part of them if I remember right

Of course... The reason cancer is so hard to cure is that it doesn't trigger an immune response. While it couldn't instantly cure cancer, shifting would make the normal cells different enough from the cancer cells to activate the missing immune response. While in a shifted state, the cancer cells would be recognized as a foreign body and attacked. The cancer would be eradicated from the body like a parasite; slowly but without any of the negative side effects that come with most cancer treatment options.
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Post by greenwizard Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:35 pm

To be on the safe side, go to the doctor and have the illness treated anyway

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Post by Akimori Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:36 pm



    *breathes deeply*

    I know you guys most likely don't have a very good education in immunology and stuff, so I will try not to be harsh or whatever.

    You know we are talking about right? Shifting. What is shifting? Changing your cells. If you can magically change your cells so they become the cells of your kintype, why the hell couldn't you change the cancer cells BY YOURSELF ?

    I mean, if you have the possibility of changing your freaking cells, why would the cancer cells be any different? They are multiplicating uncontrollably, but they have the same DNA as you (apart from the tiny little mutations that made them multiplicating uncontrollably).

    - Oh, but Aki, these tiny mutations will clearly stop me from changing the cancer cell!


    Oh, don't make me laugh. How many freaking mutations or changes in your DNA do you have when comparing it with your kintype? If your WHOLE fucking DNA isn't stopping you from shifting, a couple of tiny mutations in those cells shouldn't stop you, right?

    That was my argument for cancer. Now, if we apply that theory to wounds and the such, yep, you could cure yourself too. Tell your skin to knit itself back together, why don't you? You made your hand grow hair and claws, why couldn't you?

    For sickness due to bacteria and viruses or prions or whatever, well, I guess it depends on the virus and the bacteria in question. How is the bacteria affecting you? Do you know how your body should react ? Do you have any basis in microbiology and know what interferon or what white cells in particular should you send after the threat? Know which cells are affected by the viruses and make them go through apoptosis before they infect others?

    TLDR : You should be able to treat yourself from any wounds or sickness caused by DNA mutations and the like. Regular sickness would probably be trickier, but still doable if you have the knowledge required.

    I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feeling, just sharing my educated opinion.
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Post by Silver Black Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:17 am

Actually she makes an awful lot of sense. 

All  she said, I agree because it sounds very logical to me. 

Sister, you never cease to amaze me. 0_0.
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