DEBATE ( By Awakening ) : kintype being on the astral or etheric plane ?

[Silver Black]

Awakening wrote that on another topic and I thought it would be an awesome debate so : 

'' I would like to debate on your thoughts about your kintype being on the astral plane. I heard that your kintype lives on the etheric plane, the plane that separates the physical plane from the astral plane. On this plane your human and kintype body overlap each other. But your kintype stretched out of proportion to fit inside your human etheric body but is lined up at your extremities (hands, feet, head,etc.) This is why you might feel that your kintype body is stronger and more defined at some parts than others. But this is just my opinion, I'm not trying to force my beliefs on you. '' 

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[Guest]

Could you perhaps define what each one means? Please and thank you. ^.^

I can't speculate on this without knowing what i'm speculating on. Ahahaha.

[Guest]

Both the astral and etheric plane are "planes of existence". These planes overlap each other and take up all three dimensional space. Everyone has a body in each plane. The first plane is the physical plane which consists of all physical matter. The second is the etheric plane. Etheric "matter" is not physical but is not as light as astral matter. All physical objects have a counterpart on the etheric plane and the etheric plane is like a shadow of the physical plane. Unlike physical matter etheric matter can occupy the same space as other etheric matter. This is how we have two etheric bodies, one human and one nonhuman . The astral plane is "above" the etheric plane. The astral plane is where your spirit would be. You only have one spirit and your nonhuman etheric body does not have a spirit.

[Liudan]

In my experience the etheric is a physical plane in it's own with it's own laws of physics but they sort of fit this one somewhat. The locations here have counterparts there but here it can be called say america and there it would have 0 relation to america. What's here exists there in the sense etheric has technology, has tribes, has planets, and life, beings live and die there, but time flows differently as in races can be somewhat immortal but like all life things die and transition. The etheric has advanced civilizations, modern civilizations, and tribal civilizations. It has places like etheric egypt or etheric Mesopotamia but they aren't so much counterparts of the physical locations, they are simply called such due to but not limited to the pantheons that overlooked the regions on this side from there. But there's no everything here is there in the sense that the very house your in is going to exist in the etheric because it most likely won't.

For some like myself my location physically it's etheric counterpart is desolate and a friend his physical location the counterpart is within a tribe of other beings but his home doesnt exist there.

I've been to places like etheric counterpart of greece and it's all forestry and tribes of therians scattered about and some humans.

While the astral from my own experience is a plane of existence where all that has life and consciousness can project there, where our imagination can manifest, but these beings that exist there aren't beings with souls but beings constructed by those who project there, or those who create tulpas and thoughtforms. This plane density is very high so manifestation can happen on a whim, while some places can be manipulated and others cannot, you can still create things there, planets, "astral races" etc etc.

SR also plays a role in this hence why so many people see shadow beings, because they exist in SR but there are many SRs a realm composed of dark energy/shadows their homes. I do however, consider all the planes have a connection to one another in the sense that us and beings on other planes can enter the astral, beings from etheric or other planes can enter here (often can appear as a "ghost) and we can enter other planes and the astral.


How kin fit into it I see that the etheric body reflects the kintype, but the astral body reflects the physical body UNLESS we want to take the form of our kin before or after projecting there, or the form of whatever we want and when you project to the astral you're just an energy body, the soul never truly leaves the body when projecting because if your astral body is "destroyed" you simply ground and repair damage to your energy body and reproject, astral wise is the same, but that damage will never affect your soul.

But then again this is all my/my group(s) experiences practices.

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